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Catholic majority in N.Ireland:Гудбай Грейт Британ? привет независимость?

Сев. Иландия теперь среди молодёжи  католики в большинстве - отделение не за горами?

цифры Сев. Иландского департамента образования показывают продолжающееся увеличение доли католического населения. 120,415 протестанты and 163,693 католики в школах Сев. Ирландии. 57.6 % католики 42.4 протестанты . В общем, по всему населению Сев. Ирландии попрежнему преимущество за протестантами. 45% протестантов, 40% католики. Но очевидно, что при таких цифрах католического преимущества среди молодёжи католическое большинство в населении вцелом дело всего нескольких лет.  

Среди учеников (C. Ирландии) доля католиков приближается к 60%.

большинство католиков относят себя к "республиканцам" (за отделение от Великобритании)

К сожалению нормальные, т.с. "вменяемые", а не политизированные новости в этом вопросе найти КРАЙНЕ сложно.  Что предаёт данной информации ещё больше значения, так это тот факт, что это цифры исходящие от инстанции во многом нейтрально, но традиционно скорее немного относящейся к про-протестансткой сфере, чем к католической. Т.е. даже слегка пропротестанский источник признаёт большинство за католиками в Сев. Ирландии.
Ну что!? ;)
Согласитесь, интересно ведь, райт!?
Великобритания всеми силами боролась за террористов на Сев. Кавказе, под вывеской самоопределения. Многие из них получили убежещие в Лондоне.
Как Вы думаете, предоставят ли они Северной Ирландии те самые условия которые Великобританией с помощью террористов силой навязывались на Северном Кавказе?
опрос: Даст ли Великобритания католикам мирно отделится? 
ДА / НЕТ




Below English vers.: Catholic majority in Northern Ireland

Figures from Northern Ireland’s Department of Education for 2010/11 show 120,415 Protestants and 163,693 Catholics in the North’s schools. solely  within those figures that is a breakdown of 57.6 per cent Catholic, 42.4 per cent Protestant
Although that is not allowing for an additional 37,609 who classify themselves as “other Christian” (8,282), “non-Christian” (1,726) and the 27,601 who fall into the category of “other/no religion/religion not recorded”. THE BRITISH and Irish governments and the people of Northern Ireland are facing the prospect – and sooner than most people might think – of how to manage a transformed constitutional situation where the majority in the North are likely to be from a Catholic background.

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jesli zainteresovalo, mozhno smelo nazhat' na "rekomenduju zapis' " ;)

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jesli zainteresovalo, mozhno smelo nazhat' na "rekomenduju zapis' " ;)

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Пользователь [livejournal.com profile] pravdoiskatel77 сослался на вашу запись в записи «Гудбай Грейт Британ? привет независимость !? (http://pravdoiskatel77.livejournal.com/4351722.html)» в контексте: [...] Оригинал взят у в Гудбай Грейт Британ? привет независимость !? [...]

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From: [identity profile] andrey100-500.livejournal.com
как раз, ощутимый пример политики двойных стандартов! сепаратизм на Кавказе - это, лишь вопросы "самоопределения" для вигов и тори априори, но отделение Сев.Ирландии покажется им сепаратизмом чистой воды!
уверен на 146%)

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поддерживаю на столько же процентов!
как бы еще не вернулись к той практике, что убийство ирладца англичанином не является преступлением.

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Date: 2012-12-02 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olgina67.livejournal.com
да не даст им никто мирно отпочковаться

Date: 2012-12-23 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dlina-v-metrah.livejournal.com
Конечно, если за столько лет не дали. Они ж все время пытаются.

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не получится!)

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Пользователь [livejournal.com profile] 7freiheit сослался на вашу запись в записи «Гудбай Грейт Британ? Привет независимость !? Ирландия столько крови пролила за неё. (http://7freiheit.livejournal.com/647971.html)» в контексте: [...] всего острова. ---------------- Оригинал взят у в Гудбай Грейт Британ? привет независимость !? [...]

Date: 2012-12-23 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borman-b.livejournal.com
Какие шансы у IRA в этом вопросе?;)

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Date: 2012-12-02 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annetamironyk.livejournal.com
Нет.

Юнионисты-оранжевые подливают масло в огонь.

Date: 2012-12-12 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] margosafronova.livejournal.com
да маслоподливатели всегда есть, без них скучно

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Date: 2012-12-02 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diser.livejournal.com
Good Friday Agreement дал Сев. Ирландии некоторое количество свобод, католики пока приостановили свои центробежные позывы. Тем более что Ирландия недавно доказала свою экономическую "состоятельность".
Пока я не вижу призывов СИ отсоединиться, зато призывов от Шотландии сколько угодно. Но это может объясняться предвзятостью СМИ.

Теоретически, GB может дать СИ независимость, но это случится только перед большой Жопой во всём мире (i.e. развал ЕС, выход Каталонии, северной Италии, Фландрии и т.д. из своих стран) и большой войной.
Обоснование - другие страны и сепаратисты должны заразиться примером. Выход СИ послужит катализатором остальной цепочки и тут, GB подав пример первой, с полным правом начнет указывать остальным как себя вести.

Конечно, это удар по престижу, но что в Северной Ирландии есть такого, что нужно Лондону? Ресурсов ноль, промышленности с недавних пор тоже ноль.

Date: 2012-12-03 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey-ka23.livejournal.com
но что в Северной Ирландии есть такого, что нужно Лондону?
а что сотни лет было?

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Date: 2012-12-02 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mazepa-1.livejournal.com
я чото не верю в это отделение....

Date: 2012-12-23 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borman-b.livejournal.com
думаю не одна ты верит)как вы думаете чем это все завершиться?

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нет.
Кстати, а как там Шотландия? Вроде, тоже отделяться собиралась?
From: [identity profile] borman-b.livejournal.com
Щотландцы по сравнению с ирландцами сейчас тихони;)согласны?;)нету у них ШРА))

Date: 2012-12-03 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey-ka23.livejournal.com
замечательный пост! Спасибо.
перепост!

Date: 2012-12-23 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borman-b.livejournal.com
тоже интересна история Британии?;)

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Date: 2012-12-03 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] predko.livejournal.com
Думаю, что конфликт будет остро развиваться, но не факт, что Королева будет удерживать территорию военными силами. Хотя кто знает...

Date: 2012-12-05 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey-ka23.livejournal.com
а что может помешать применить вооруженные силы?

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Date: 2012-12-03 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stone515.livejournal.com
дадут у них выхода нет ))

Date: 2012-12-23 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borman-b.livejournal.com
скорее все все останется без изменений;)а откуда уверенность что дадут?;)мне аж интересно)

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Date: 2012-12-03 06:43 am (UTC)
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Англы могут не желать отделения Ольстера, но былой прыти уже нет. Если шотландцы всё же пробьют отделение, то и Ольстер навострит лыжи.

Date: 2012-12-12 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kastamuni.livejournal.com
Лучше уж за Шотландию держаться на месте Лондона, чем за Ольстер.

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3000-ТОП

Date: 2012-12-03 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3000top.livejournal.com
Ваша запись появилась в рейтинге 3000-ТОП. Отслеживать судьбу записи вы можете по этой ссылке.
Подписаться на рассылку или отказаться от рассылки можно здесь.

Re: 3000-ТОП

Date: 2012-12-05 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruriktochkase.livejournal.com
o?! neozhidanno...

+1

Date: 2012-12-03 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] troitsk-les.livejournal.com
дружим?

Re: +1

Date: 2012-12-06 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruriktochkase.livejournal.com
posmotrel Vash zhurnal i profil'.
da, konechno druzhim :)

Date: 2012-12-03 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 1-st.livejournal.com
это так странно, что отделение может быть по религиозному признку

Date: 2012-12-05 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey-ka23.livejournal.com
что странного в отделении по религиозному признаку??

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Date: 2012-12-05 08:25 pm (UTC)
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картинка хорошая)

Date: 2012-12-06 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elenabyzova.livejournal.com
Лео, я ничего не поняла, а что, вот это процентное соотношение католики-протестанты как-то может повлиять на что-то. Прости, но я совсем не в теме)

Date: 2012-12-06 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 0-lechim.livejournal.com

привет Лен!
davno tebja zdes' ne bylo.
rad videt'!
если особо не вдаваться в подробности,
то посмотри на иллюстрацию :)

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Date: 2012-12-08 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] galina-efimova.livejournal.com
Вряд ли возможно отделение по доброй воле Великобритании, нет такое не возможно.

Date: 2012-12-12 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruriktochkase.livejournal.com
но ведь тогда получается что это откровенные двойные стандарты!?
btw: думаете они в связи с происходящим в С. Ирландии процессом немного успокоятся в своём рвении поддерживать террористические группировки сепаратистов в других странах?

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Date: 2012-12-10 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrey100-500.livejournal.com
прости меня. у меня настроение плохое было..
кое как уравновесил)

Date: 2012-12-23 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borman-b.livejournal.com
привет Лесли!;)тоже бриты настроение подпортили?;)

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Date: 2012-12-11 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abyssem.livejournal.com
А что от Великобритании вообще остается? Северная Ирландия отделяется, Шотландия отделяется, остается только Уэльс и сама Англия. Как-то многовато государств на эти острова.

Недавно слышал, что суд Великобритании запретил некой семье усыновить ребенка из-за их традиционных взглядов. А с геями статистику особо не нарастишь.

Date: 2012-12-23 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borman-b.livejournal.com
А бритты опять в Индию поедут)за колониями)согласны7;)

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Date: 2012-12-11 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] margosafronova.livejournal.com
свои террористы под боком, с ними церемониться не будут. А почему ваши посты не появляются в моей ленте друзей? Так было бы проще отвечать.

Date: 2012-12-12 09:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruriktochkase.livejournal.com
свои террористы под боком, с ними церемониться не будут.
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о террористах: но ведь тогда получается что это откровенные двойные стандарты!?

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